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GISHerps
04-01-2009, 10:19 PM
http://pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=175

Read this thing folks! Let your voice be heard!!
4/23/09 is the date.

CodynThor
04-02-2009, 01:31 AM
DUDE THEY CAN'T DO THAT. They'll never take my Thor or me ALIVE!!!

pokeystotle
04-02-2009, 08:40 AM
These people won't be happy until they all get their way. The problem is that they have idealogical reasons for their motive, and little in the way of facts.

laurarfl
04-02-2009, 01:01 PM
No, they won't take what you already own. You won't be permitted to travel with it, breed it, sell it, or buy any more.

pokeystotle
04-02-2009, 01:24 PM
No, they won't take what you already own. You won't be permitted to travel with it, breed it, sell it, or buy any more.

That's still awful. Essentially bringing reptile keeping to an end. People will still breed animals. Personnally I'm sick of this 'big brother' style government that keeps coming up with new rules, and regulations. It's like here in Massachusetts, it seems all our politicians can do is tax things to come up with the money for the social projects, and new regulations for everything. It's irritation because not everyone is a moron that needs their hands held.

GISHerps
04-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Notice it's not ONLY reptiles but any animal not from here.
ie, parrots, hamsters, exotic mammals, foreign insects, etc.,etc.
This would virtually end the pet trade in general as we know it. Millions in revenue down the toilet with our already struggling economy!!
We can't let this happen! If you value your rights and love your animals get involved, don't sit on the fence. If they don't get a strong enough resistance to this it might actually pass. IF that were to happen it won't be the only thing they'll change! Believe it!

I'm sure this was sparked by the escapee Burmese python population in Florida after the hurricanes. A nice knee jerk reaction that would seal the fate of our country! Think about ALL the breeders, all the pet food manufacturers, all the accessories, cages, you name it would no longer be needed. If you didn't have a dog or cat you'd soon not have any pets at all.

pokeystotle
04-02-2009, 05:25 PM
I agree but what do these liberal 'insert four letter word, or six perhaps' in plural form, care? I'm appalled that the Nature Conservancy is acting on behalf of this bill as well. These people are putting together a world that I'm interested in leaving. Of course if they get their way with socialism, I won't be allowed too.

BoxTurtle52
04-03-2009, 01:02 AM
I don't understand it, are they going to ban ALL, EVERY SINGLE reptile in the world, all over the world?

Man, I hope not.

GISHerps
04-03-2009, 03:07 AM
This is a copy of the email I got:

CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON HR 669 WHICH WOULD BAN NONNATIVE SPECIES

TO BE HEARD APRIL 23 -- ACTION NEEDED



THE ISSUE

The Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act (H.R. 669), introduced by Del. Madeleine Bordallo (D-Guam) Chair of the Subcommittee on Insular Affairs, Oceans and Wildlife of the House Natural Resources Committee would totally revamp how nonnative species are regulated under the Lacey Act.



Currently, the Fish and Wildlife Service is required to demonstrate that a species is injurious [harmful] to health and welfare of humans, the interests of agriculture, horticulture or forestry, and the welfare and survival of wildlife resources of the U.S.



HR 669 substantially complicates that process by compelling the Service to produce two lists after conducting a risk assessment for each nonnative wildlife species to determine if it is likely to “cause economic or environmental harm or harm to other animal species’ health or human health.” In order to be placed on the “Approved List” it must be established that the species has not, or is not likely, to cause “harm” anywhere in the US. Species that are considered potentially harmful would be placed on an “Unapproved List.” Furthermore, HR 669 would essentially ban all species that do not appear on the Approved List, regardless of whether or not they have ever been petitioned for listing or are sufficiently well studied to enable a listing determination.



Species not appearing on the “Approved List” could not be imported into the United States; therefore, all unapproved nonnative species could not be moved interstate. In addition, trade in all such unlisted species would come to a halt – possession would be limited and all breeding would cease. Unless those species are included on the approved list import, export, transport, and breeding would be prohibited. Exceptions are limited and would not be available to pet owners across the nation.





To view full HR669 PetAlert click on one of the following links “Breaking News” (http://pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=175) or “HR669 Forum” (http://pijac.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=504). Both will take you to pages on the PIJAC website.


PIJAC

1220 19th Street, NW, Ste 400

Washington, DC 20036

(202) 452-1525 - tel

(202) 293-4377 - fax

Read it and see for yourself.

txrepgirl
04-03-2009, 04:44 AM
Well if that is the case than the Zoos will have some big problems, too.Even Doctors sad before that animals are therapy to a human.That they bring happyness.I think it is true because there is not one day that goes by that my animals don't but a smile on my face.My Tegus make me laugh even a few times a day because they do something funny and they want to take that away from us.

laurarfl
04-03-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm sure there will be a zoo exemption. This is in response to private keepers and hobbyists who are perceived to be destroying the US ecosystem with escaped and released exotics animals. It's also in response to the numbers of bites by exhibition animals, people who don't want exotics in their neighborhoods, and people who are just generally afraid of exotics (not just reptiles)

Here in Fl, it has been a real nightmare. The Burmese pythons are breeding in the Everglades (no, they weren't really released), the Nile Monitors are established and the media really plays up their ferocity. The iguanas in S FL are eating everyone's yards and pooping in their swimming pools. There's an established colony of tegus in Polk County eating farmer's crops, some monkeys escaped off an island in Central FL and are running wild, plus the rivers and lakes are overrun with exotic fish that were released. People are just fed up and calling to their congresspeople to do something about it.

txrepgirl
04-03-2009, 06:35 PM
I understand that.I would be upset, too, but that doesn't mean that every one has to pay the price for what some people did.

GISHerps
04-03-2009, 08:50 PM
http://www.google.com/search?q=hr669+petition&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-22,GGGL:en

FIND ALL THE AGAINST PETITIONS AND SIGN THEM!

laurarfl
04-03-2009, 08:52 PM
I agree, Sam! But there's some very wealthy constituents down there and the squeaky wheel gets oiled, so to speak!

linlizards
04-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Seems like we have a bigger problem here in Florida with vicious DOGS that maim people for life and even kill. People fear what they don't understand and soooo many people don't understand reptiles. Give me a Burmese python any day. Less likely to bite.