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SnakeFreak
09-03-2005, 03:24 AM
First of all, I've read some caresheets that say monitors and tegus don't need a uvb light if you give them a calcium and D3 supplement, is this true? And this probably sounds weird, but for some reason I find males with big jowls grotesque looking. Is the jowl size random, or is it effected by how much fat the tegu has? I'm not talking about starving it or anything, but would keeping it a little on the slim side keep the jowls smaller? I'm thinking about just getting a female, but I've heard that its better to keep a male as a pet because males tend to be somewhat calmer than females and because females can become eggbound. Is this true? And how likely is it that a tegu will try to hibernate? Is there any way you can keep it from hibernating? I'm not sure I want a pet that I can't do anything with for half the year.

Teiidae
09-03-2005, 04:31 AM
First of all, I've read some caresheets that say monitors and tegus don't need a uvb light if you give them a calcium and D3 supplement, is this true? And this probably sounds weird, but for some reason I find males with big jowls grotesque looking. Is the jowl size random, or is it effected by how much fat the tegu has? I'm not talking about starving it or anything, but would keeping it a little on the slim side keep the jowls smaller? I'm thinking about just getting a female, but I've heard that its better to keep a male as a pet because males tend to be somewhat calmer than females and because females can become eggbound. Is this true? And how likely is it that a tegu will try to hibernate? Is there any way you can keep it from hibernating? I'm not sure I want a pet that I can't do anything with for half the year.

Welcome to the site - The tegu will need a uvb light source in addition to calcium and supplements - Males tend to have larger jowels than females and how can you deny a face like that :wink: A young Tegu should be fed all it will eat, however as an adult feedings should be monitored as they can become obese - I believe and have read that males are easier to work with than females "go figure" - No offence to anyone - The tegu's hibernation period in capitivity should be nill to none if you set the conditions right and do not try to stimulate or induce a hibernating environment ...

Johelian
09-03-2005, 04:58 PM
In addition to Edges post, there is a lot of controversy surrounding the use of UVB and you will read a lot of conflicting accounts. Technically, if the D3 supplementation is exact to the animals needs it doesnt need UVB, but a lack will result in deficiencies with dire consequences, and over supplementation can poison the animal. Im not sure there is even a precise chart for any reptile that dictates how much D3 it needs - which is why UVB and calcium supplementation is offered to lizards kept indoors to allow them to synthesise exactly what they need (rather than us bungling humans trying to guess for them ;) ) Also, a diet with plenty of adults rodents and insects/fruits/veg etc should provide all the necessary vits. However, I personally use a UVB tube in my viv to be safe, and offer a multivit supplement once a week.

I would definitely recommend a UVB source for a baby tegu, which has a lot of growing to do and in which MBD may quickly develop. They also brighten up the cage nicely to stimulate activity.

cynthia
09-18-2005, 10:57 PM
I have a 12 year old son that has had a bull frog now for 3 years, he got it as a tadpole so he has proven himself with commitment. He has been doing much research on Armadillo reptiles and a black and white tegu.
My question is in regards to picking the best rep. Everyone that we talk with wants to sell us the lizard that they seem to be having a hard time getting rid of. We are looking for a lizard that will be interesting enough to want to spend time with and yet mild mannered enough to be able to.
I am getting mixed reviews. can someone offer some advice before we make the purchase? :roll:

Teiidae
09-18-2005, 11:21 PM
I have a 12 year old son that has had a bull frog now for 3 years, he got it as a tadpole so he has proven himself with commitment. He has been doing much research on Armadillo reptiles and a black and white tegu.
My question is in regards to picking the best rep. Everyone that we talk with wants to sell us the lizard that they seem to be having a hard time getting rid of. We are looking for a lizard that will be interesting enough to want to spend time with and yet mild mannered enough to be able to.
I am getting mixed reviews. can someone offer some advice before we make the purchase? :roll:

Welcome to thetegu - If you decide to go with the Tegu, I would suggest the Argentine B&W Tegu - If you have not already checked in "Helpful Info", there is good info to distinguish this from the Colombian Black Tegu which some people sell as a "Black & White Tegu" - They are quite different in temperment - I believe you have found one of the most informative Tegu forums here for answers or info you may be seeking - Good luck with your decision ...

cynthia
09-18-2005, 11:26 PM
thank you. They said it is a pair of columbian black and white Tegu..
I will check it out though. We want the smaller and more calm option if that is possible.

Teiidae
09-18-2005, 11:35 PM
thank you. They said it is a pair of columbian black and white Tegu..
I will check it out though. We want the smaller and more calm option if that is possible.

There may lie the problem - The Argentine may grow to 4-4.5 feet, while the Colombian may only grow to 3-3.5 feet, however the Argentine by far will be easier to work with than the Colombians - Some claim to have a mild mannered Colombians - "Not Me", but for the most part the Argentines are much more likely to be tamed as they seem to enjoy human contact more in my opinion ...

cynthia
09-18-2005, 11:41 PM
wow.

we may need to find something that maxes out at around 24 inches or so. The Tegu seems like a bit more than I am ready for - after reading more on their size. Other than that ... I am jealous. We are meeting with a breeder tomorrow. He may have some other ideas too...
Thanks Cynthia

drfish
09-19-2005, 11:24 AM
Something more like Bearded Dragon size would maybe be more suitable then.

They max out at around 24-30" I believe, and have a fairly mild manner.

Teiidae
09-19-2005, 12:35 PM
A big beardie may max out to around 24" - and they are very easy to make friends with :wink:

cynthia
09-19-2005, 01:52 PM
Good idea. We will check that out. There are also 2 Armadillo lizards my son was looking at .
My biggest frustration is in the contradiction in information from care sheets to breeders to pet store people. Everyone has had a different experience with the same type of critter. We should know more this evening- after visiting with a breeder. We may even hold out till the reptile show he was telling me about.

drfish
09-19-2005, 03:24 PM
You'll find this with just about any reptile species. A lot comes down to personal experiences, but they may differ hugely from a qualified vet's idea of care.

Either way, the advice can be collated, and a common sense approach taken from it.

For the most part, the main bulk of the care will be mirrored by most herp owners. these tend to be heat, light, water, humidity etc.

stano40
09-19-2005, 03:37 PM
i have all three beardie, tegu and armadillo lizards.if your son wants a lizard just to watch the armadillo is fun to watch but too flighty to handle. the tegu grow very fast and are BIG but are great to interact with,the beardie are very comical, more manageable size wise and can be interacted with.also keep in mind what you will be comfortable feeding your lizard as tegu and beardies eat mice. good luck and have fun with what you choose.
Michelle

arf-man
09-19-2005, 09:52 PM
Good idea. We will check that out. There are also 2 Armadillo lizards my son was looking at .
My biggest frustration is in the contradiction in information from care sheets to breeders to pet store people. Everyone has had a different experience with the same type of critter. We should know more this evening- after visiting with a breeder. We may even hold out till the reptile show he was telling me about.

I have a bearded dragon and highly recomend this as a first lizard. They take well to being handled and have some behavioral "quirks" that can be fun to watch, head bobbing and arm waving.

And I swear mine likes to mess with my wife who is not a reptile person...it will hide behind the couch and when my wife walks along it runs and stops in front of her, looking up and bobbing its head...freaks her out...

RE: your comment about conflicting information, spot on. Don't believe everything you hear or read. If someone tells you something ask if there are studies or statistics backing up what they are saying. This board is by far the best board I've encountered, the moderators and the regular contributors are outstanding. However, that has not been the case with other boards I've been on, especially with respect to bearded dragons. I overdosed mine with supplements listening to well intentioned, but misinformed, people.

This board, of course, is for Tegus but you'll find folks here willing to give info others...

cynthia
09-20-2005, 02:04 AM
Wow we went today and looked at the pair (Colombian Black Tegu). My son has decided on getting just the female. They were just way too beautiful to pass up. So we are preparing the new home. If it were up to me I would have gotten the blue tongue skink he had.
I am sure we will have many questions and photos as the adventure continues.

Teiidae
09-20-2005, 02:39 AM
Yep - we like pics - And there are many here to answer your questions or concerns - Enjoy your new Tegu :wink:

cynthia
09-23-2005, 06:42 AM
We got her today! she is beautiful. So relaxed for a first day. she is a Colombian black & white.. We will work on the pics in a few days. 8O

Teiidae
09-23-2005, 01:01 PM
We got her today! she is beautiful. So relaxed for a first day. she is a Colombian black & white.. We will work on the pics in a few days. 8O

And a few posts back you said the Tegu would be too big lol - Now you love her - You've been bitten by the bug - enjoy :wink:

cynthia
09-23-2005, 01:11 PM
oh Ya.! - It is like that. :D she holds so still and closes her eyes when we pet her... I have been trying to read through old posts on feeding and housing.

She is soft, bright, and so amazing. (remind me I said all this later).