I'm new to the forum and live in England. I started keeping and breeding herps in the 70's . I was always wanted tegs and had been researching for some time. Last year I sourced an unrelated pair of supposedly sub adult black and whites. To my everlasting joy they're actually blues! They have their own room in an outbuilding. In summer they'll have direct access to an outdoor enclosure. I go in there and sit at the far end from the basking spot, within a minute they come over and sit on my lap, bliss.