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    To be honest I was leaning toward the retic but there is a fair chance that I couldn't accomodate one, and when it comes to my animals I don't take chances. As far as a nippy baby burm...I don't really care if the little fella bites me! I'd do the same thing in his position.

    I have always wanted to keep big snakes but lately I have felt like I needed to "act now". I watched that show "python wars" on national geographic. If some of those people had their way we couldn't keep a Garter snake. They see us "weirdos" as iresponsible people who always let our snakes go when we can't manage them anymore. They put the stories on the news that headline "giant snake attempts to eat small girl"
    Then when they interview the family and they forget ask all the important questions like when was the last time you fed the snake?, how did she get out? etc.


    Unfortunately it is the responsible, passionate keepers that get hurt not the wreckless ones that could care less. Anyway I say all this to say I'm making the Burm the next pet because I don't know if they will still be in the pet trade in 5 or 10 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelrose View Post
    ...than there's the baby burms .....:P



    Sweet Green Burmese pythons! How much do those cost in USA?

    On Topic: I would say go with a Burmese python
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    I think it's a combination of them being let loose & that they do kill people. From toddlers to 15 year old boys. It's sort of like the issue with guns, just because some people are responsible doesn't mean all people are. And because they are dangerous in the hands of the wrong people, some laws and checking need to be done and enforced..

    I don't think big snakes should be banned, I love snakes & the bigger they are the more beauty you can see (I'd never get one solely because of the poo/pee), but sellers really need to limit who they sell too. Not just everyone that has the money. It should be difficult for the average impulse buyer to get something that potentially dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-905-Canada View Post
    Sweet Green Burmese pythons! How much do those cost in USA?

    On Topic: I would say go with a Burmese python

    HI Rob, very good to see you! ...and Thank You! I paid 180.00 for the Albino, Green Burm and for the Green het for Albino and Labyrinth, I paid 250'ish.

    You have some outstanding Boas there! Verrrrrrrrrrry attractive. When you have time, would love to see them ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tora View Post
    I think it's a combination of them being let loose & that they do kill people. From toddlers to 15 year old boys. It's sort of like the issue with guns, just because some people are responsible doesn't mean all people are. And because they are dangerous in the hands of the wrong people, some laws and checking need to be done and enforced..

    I don't think big snakes should be banned, I love snakes & the bigger they are the more beauty you can see (I'd never get one solely because of the poo/pee), but sellers really need to limit who they sell too. Not just everyone that has the money. It should be difficult for the average impulse buyer to get something that potentially dangerous.

    There's definite truth to what you said. It's a hot topic of discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the enigma View Post

    Unfortunately it is the responsible, passionate keepers that get hurt not the wreckless ones that could care less.
    Soooooooooooo very true !

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    Thanks angel!

    As for being dangerous animal. Yes burmese, african rock ,retics and anaconda are dangerous animal that are capable of killing human being. But as far as I know, dogs as well as horses can do the same thing and people don't argue with that. 1 month ago, a baby in Quebec (23 days old) was killed by an adult husky. The dog was referred to be just a sweet heart and never tempted to attack anyone.

    The important thing when it comes to keep an animal, is that we should NEVER TRUST THEM TO 100% .These aren't robot. They do not obey our orders and they have a personnality. Most of people here believe that reptile have ''personnality". If that so, that would mean that one morning, they can wake up and feel impatient, wanting to be alone. Animal can have their bad days too.

    The good things about animal, is that they shown physical response from our presence. When someone know these information, they can recognize the animal ''temperament'' and deal with it.

    All I can say, is that big snake, have a very bad reputation for nothing. Because a couple of them kill people because of someone irresponsability. If a snake kill a human child, because the owner forgot to close the enclosure and lock it, don't blame the snake, blame the owner.

    However, whatever you get, a retic or a burm. Both of them can become a very good pet. Like many snake owner say: Snake are soooooo misunderstood.

    Have fun!
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    Well horses and dogs have more of a chance of being tamed, and being more docile than a snake. People get hurt on horses solely because they did something wrong. You don't have to worry about horses being let into the wild then killing someone because they're hungry. I'd never trust a snake, as nice as they may be most of the time. I've owned a few, and especially with my more recent purchase, they've shown me that they can have bad days - even weeks- for no reason. No animal should be left alone with a child, period. Sure dogs can kill people, but it's far less likely than a 15-20 ft snake killing someone. Leave a dog pen open and usually the worst that happens is you get a mess made in your house. You don't have to be as rigid and responsible with a domestic animal. Humans make mistakes, and it only takes ONE time. Dogs like to live with us, reptiles are accustomed to living alone and have no sense of right or wrong. Only thing that they are concerned with is #1. People see having a huge snake like that about on the same level of owning a big cat. It's a life threatening risk to the owner and others solely for the owners pleasure (can't think of the right word). Its a lot different than having a domestic animal, so don't compare the risks to those of a dog or horse.

    Like I said, don't imply that I'm out to attack snakes or something, I think they're awesome creatures and even own them. It's just people need to realize that not everyone shares your love, or would like to take a risk on something they don't care much about. Not everyone is responsible, not everyone is perfect, things happen even with 'good' reptile owners. I'm just saying that not everyone and their brother should be able to own this animal. As we know, a lot of people are impulse buyers, and just want the most 'badass' snake they can get their hands on, just to let it loose later on down the line. They should be legal, to the right people.

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    I know this will make this thread possibly blow up...but here goes:

    What is best to feed the burm live or frozen? I know that some people are of the opinion that feeding their snakes frozen/prekilled food items is best for the snake and reduces their "killing" instinct. Others say it doesn't matter. By your own personal experience, what do you guys think?
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    Well I've seen both. Burm eating lived prey and some eating dead prey. As I seen, some will react completely different. The one I work with, where feed in the cage, with live animal, and they never tried to bite me. They hiss a couple time, but none of them charge me. My burm is fed with dead prey into another cage.

    Here is my way of feeding:
    -Put the Dead rat in the feeding cage
    -Wash your hands/arm
    -Take the animal out of his cage
    -bring him to the feeding cage
    - If the snake strike and ''start rolling the prey in his coil'' put him back in his cage or let him finish swallowing the whole prey.
    -Put him back in the cage.

    I do think that feed live has an impact on some snake, but not every of them. Plus feeding live, can harm the snake if the prey bite him back. For those reason, I prefer to put the ''good chance'' on my side and feed her dead prey.

    Tora, I wasn't attacking the dog and horse. I am just comparing the fact, that dog and horse can kill a person and that we don't ban them just because of that. So why should we do it for snake? Just because the majority of people are horrified or know poor information or saw them on tv just like dangerous beast and think that they have only one purpose and it's to kill people. Most of reptile keeper know that is wrong. Snake just like other reptile can be as calm and gentle as a dog. They just need more time to get accustomed to us. Dogs and Horse have been used to human presence for many years, that's why they are so called ''domesticated''. But if you don't socialise them, they will be as skittish, nervous or even aggressive toward human just like every animal.That's the point of captive breeding and socialising.

    Like I said, I'm sorry if you take my opinion as a personnal attack to dog or horse, I am not there to show people what is wrong or good.
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